Thai Guys with foreign Girls

[Indman]

Personal preferance I guess. My first gf was a white Australian girl...we never worked out caus too many differences in out outlook on life anyway. I find asian girls more to my liking and generally they have the same cultural and social outlooks I have as well.

[hbkbkk]

Well I think with a thai girl and a foreign guy, they are dealing with different culture too.

Is it maybe because girl are more willing to adjust or work at it?

[Indman]

You could be right there. I find asian girls in general tend to be more adventrous and outgoing than their male counterparts. So they are more receptive to foreign ideas and cultures. Us guys on the other hand tend to be set in our ways and kinda like it there.!

[dippy]

some of us western girls are adventurous, well most of us are! perhaps u haven't met the right ones, I myself like to embrace all cultures,and take ppl for what they are personally and not what race or culture they are.

I had a thai boyfriend and we got on no diff to when I have western boyfriend

[sabrina_xxx]

Onlynx - considering you are not a Thai guy, you seem to think you know so much about what they want ! Infact in my experience they did not have any preferences against myself as a foreign girl, quiet the opposite infact!

There are plenty of GENUINE couples of Thai men and foreign girls, so if you take a step out of your bubble maybe you would see.

I think it is obvious why the are so many couples of the opposite.

[sabrina_xxx]

No, actually : my bubble is not in lovely uk , ive been in bkk for the last 7 years with my thai boyfriend of 5 years !

i have a very wide circle of male thai friends whom all seem to love uk girls - and i know they are not lying to me either ! and certainly not just for fcuking !

and i needed to repeat the point about genuine couples of thai men and foreign - not japanese - woman as that point seemed to have been put down, which of course will upset myself and any other girls in my situation.

[Lola_75]

Hi !

There are not many Thai men with western girls for many reasons but especially because you do not seem to get as many western girls moving to settle in Thailand and I guess they are not really so attracted to the Asian men - of course there are exceptions (like me hehehehehe)

However, in my experience in Thailand, the Thai men were most definitely interested in myself and fellow western girlfriends.

I have some very close male Thai friends and as I understand, many of the Thai men are quite shy with a western girl.

But as a western girl, I can say for sure, there is definitely no preference against us.

And I really hope that in the future there will be more mixed relationships between Thai men and foreign woman as I love to see it, just wish there were more like it (I am, lucky cause I am only 5ft2 so don't have the height issue)

[Kokbigbig]

Just to add some fuel to the fire of opinions and expertise expressed on this topic; Why do human beings always desire something different than what is available in their own world? Could it be that they cannot find the appropriate partners locally or is it that the locals dont find them desirable. It is quite easy for a Farnang to go to another country and think that they are so special with a native partner. But will they still be wanted if their bank balance declines to the level of the people from the contry that they have escaped to?

Over all the answer is entirely relative. Try being a poor farang in our country.

You may lose lovers and discover humility.....

[StephanX]

.... But will they still be wanted if their bank balance declines to the level of the people from the contry that they have escaped to?

Over all the answer is entirely relative. Try being a poor farang in our country.

You may lose lovers and discover humility.....

I can't here that stupid thing about money anymore, to many Asian men hide behind that....!

Sure, money always helps!

But a few more important arguments:

The exotic will always apeal, no matter where you are.

I know many girls in Europe going for foreign men from Southern America or Africa and very often these guys are not rich!!! There must be something else...

Farang men, if they keep in shape, are rather masculin, Asian woman rather feminin, it matches very often (I have seen couples which matched like that the other way around, but not very often).

If a man knows how to treat a girl, then he will have higher chances. Just remember, there are men with lots of money, but they have no time and feeling for their wives and more and more these women will surch for a good lover, sometimes a much younger guy.

These were just some thoughts and maybe one last one to overcome all stereotypes: At the end it comes down to two people getting along. Period.

[Nicole]

I'm a white girl who's lived here for a year. I can count on one hand the number of times a Thai guy has approached me for a real conversation (I'm excepting all the "You want tuk-tuk?" ****). I'm not super-tall (5'4' or 162 cm) and white guys here hit on me enough (though some of them are scary), so I don't think I'm "unapproachable" by most standards. However, I do carry myself with a confident attitude (I've actually had more black guys hit on me in Bangkok than Thai guys; do that stats on that, kids!)

In addition, I do find Asian men in general attractive (just as I find white guys, black guys, whatever attractive in general). In the States, two of my boyfriends were Taiwanese-born Asian-Americans. It's actually become a running joke in my family. Everyone was shocked when I visited for Christmas and DIDN'T have a Thai boyfriend. But I gotta be honest with you, I just don't find your average Thai guy that attractive.

Why not? Well, I'm a big one for clear skin. Always have been; maybe it's the pollution but you don't see a lot of clear skin here, even on adults. Also, Thai men just don't carry themselves very confidently. I don't want to be with someone who seems to be afraid of me. What fun is that?

So yeah, I guess I have been impacted my Western standards of "masculine." But it goes the other way, too; I don't want someone who is trying to "scare" or dominate me. And from my own small experiences with Thai men, but moreso from what both Thai and white women tell me, many Thai men have this impression that they should be the ultimate boss in the relationship. (I realize a lot of white guys believe that too; but that's not the topic today). So yeah, why would I want to be with someone (whatever his race) who has a totally different idea of what "relationship" means? If you talk to some Thai girls, this is one reason they like farang guys (of course money is nearly always a factor).

So, to wrap up, I don't think most white girls here are opposed to Thai guys completely. But if you talk to other women, you don't get the best impression. And since Thai guys so rarely talk to me, what else do I have to go on? ("You want sexy DVD?")

Why don't I talk to Thai guys, you ask? Well, I don't know if they speak English, and I don't want to make them lose face. If I see one I like, I try to smile at him. Doesn't seem to encourage anyone to talk to me, though. And, see above about attractiveness. I guess I don't see many who make me want to put forth the effort.

[Indman]

Hit the nail on the head there Nicole. Thai guys (I'm referring to the guys born & bred in Thailand and never bothered looking outside thier fishbowl) generally don't like things they don't already know. And have to agree with Onlynx in that Thai guys generally prefer asian girls. ie. the yellow variety, Jap, Korean, Chinese...the fairer the better.

Also got to take into account the fact that most of them forgot whatever meagre english they learnt back in College a long time ago and you see why Thai guys just don't approach farang girls...though this doesn't seem to stop them from approaching Japs & Chinese chics...

Anyway there 2 cents worth...I'm sure someone else can give the other 98 later but hey as long as the chic is good natured, outgoing and generally not too hideous to look at I'm all ears.

[Kokbigbig]

Great discussion! It is always interesting when a Farang starts to say that the money thing is just stereotyping. Seems to be based on opinion usually from a defencive position rather than experience.

What does exotic really mean in this context? Is it a visual and a curiosity thing stemming from humans desire to have something different not often readily available to them?

As i am not a female I appreciate the ladies sharing their experiences rather than reading a male opinion. This male is definateley enlightened by what i read from the Yin energies.

Although we are all human beings,my experience suggests that the Western mind is still different than the Eastern mind. Particulary when times get difficult.

[NoiBKK]

You want an opinion, You got it !

As a Thai female, I've been around Thai men more than Western men, of course. But I'm attracted to Western men. May be because my dad's colleagues were Westerners and we had many parties in our house. As a kid, I found them fun and interesting. When I grew up, my 'faminist' attitudes speak out often so I find Thai men are too selfish. Yes, some of them are perfect for bf but I'm not attracted to them so what can I co. hehehe

[Kokbigbig]

It seems that people often searching for something different than they already have. Whether male or female but as the topic is farang men and thai women.

I am just in the belief that many relationships are derived from an inequity of power. Personal preference aside it is obvious that there are very few farng women that flood in SE Asia searching for an exotic lover.

Those that have hooked up with a Thai male seem to be quite happy ie Nicole.

Perhaps it is a self esteem thing regarding farang men and Thai girls as there are plenty of gorgeous farang women in the world.

Desperation is a strange but motivating energy.....

[StephanX]

...don't want to get in that 'mine is bigger'-thing... as that can be a bit of a problem, too...

The most exciting relationsships all around the world I have seen between partners of different races and cultural backgrounds. Why? Because it takes some effort to bring the oceans together and you have to really widen your horizon. That is not to call 'normal' (hell, what is normal???) relationships boring... But to promote them as the normal (here we go again...) thing is not only narrow minded, but close to racism!!!

One more example, from Singapore, where I work most of the time. Here are a lot of financially independent women going for caucasian men. They don't need them for money, sometimes they earn more. But they want an exciting relationship with open minded men who treat them a bit better.

Because money doesn't train manners...

[Kokbigbig]

Assumptions! Im an African American born in Asia. So as most of you cauasians know size is important.

It wasnt an attack on white men with thai girls, it is an observation from a professional that gathers research on social and health changes in Thai society.

The western culture has brought many benefits to asia but we cannot dismiss the less than useful things that follow the occidental itinerents effect upon an ancient culture.

It is what it is as much as people believe that they are what do. Rather than what they do is just what they do.

[farangnbkk]

Thailand is a group oriented society. Independence and independent thought is pretty much pounded out of most when they finish school.

It would be the rare Thai man who would be independent enough to approach a "western" woman.

Observe how asian males are when they study overseas. What % of them travel in all-asian circles? How many really assimilate into the educational institution? Of those that assimilate well into the educational institution, how many assimilate into society outside of the educational institution?

Asian males suffer from an effeminate or general non-masculine image, but this isn't a barrier as some would think. The biggest barrier is the asian males themselves.

Females have it much easier because the standard is for the guys to ask girls out. Asians are exotic from a 'western' point of view, so someone will be asking eventually if an asian woman goes overseas.

Asian males in general don't have the experience of going up to someone who they don't know and asking them on a date. Or even starting a conversation. Look at Thai society. How often do two groups meet while walking down a street where only a few know each other? What happens? The people who know each other hold a conversation. The people who don't know the other party hangs back at a distance. Maybe they'll be introduced, maybe not. I'd venture to say that most cases people are NOT introduced.

[Kokbigbig]

Great topic whoever started it. Im enjoying the diverse views of all of you so thanks very much.

[StephanX]

...know about your nickname, celticcola... but you kind of summed it all up, great stuff, thanks for taking the time!

[StephanX]

may i push? i think farang girls are like missile but thai boys are like jet plane.

Sounds great, but what does it mean? Thai girls are faster? Faster in what? A missile can be dangerous.... A jet plane is comfortable... I know that some things in Asia are put into pictures and everybody just sees what they would like to see.....

Tell us, babe!!!

[farangnbkk]

So much stuff here that's wrong, one doesn't know where to start!

'"Western"/ white/european women generally do not find ASIAN men particularly attractive- and it is even not unusual for the opposite to be the case.'

lol. Where does this come from? How can you back this up?

I know for a fact that none of my well adjusted asian male friends have absolutely no problem acquiring dates with 'white' women, even really attractive women (when compared to their comparable white counterparts). When asked about whether the white women ever considered dating an asian, it may not be something that occured to them before they were asked on a date, but it never was an issue. Though marriage is another story. Concede there is a slight negative bias. Not the same for my black friends though with regards to dating. Still have a ways to go there.

"The ASIAN men tend to be more content to stay within there own race" Hah! How many asian men have you talked too? Many (can even say most) have the hots for non-asians (not talking marriage [too much societal pressure], but dating), just there culture and upbringing holding them back.

I think the most telling point in your post is: "The attraction mainly works on the basis that ASIAN women are often much more graceful, demur, non threatening, less intimidating, more approacable than their "western"counter parts."

Demure and non-threatening. Hehe, there are some pretty volatile Thai women. There is a reason for the saying "Feeding the Ducks" and why Thailand is at the forefront of penis re-attachment technology. I don't think it has anything to do with demure and non-threatening. Course I COULD be wrong!

This is that attitude of someone who doesn't seem to have the social skills to APPROACH women in the "west". I never had a problem approaching women in the west. "Hello" usually worked quite well for me. As for graceful and demure, that's a facade because they generally don't wield power in society (least overtly), but it could also be your impression because the women would like to climb out of their current existence to a better one economically with you.

There are so many other misconceptions in your asian fetish outlook that it's quite funny! You don't really know asians at all! It's hilarious!!!

[farangnbkk]

...Well ASS-U-MING that the truth usually lies somewhere in the midde, that would still mean I am right and you [frangbkk] are very wrong.

The difference between you and me is that you ASSuME.

I gave you sound logic to refute your obvious delusions and you reply with diddly squat.

How about we keep this simple, and instead of me reposting my whole article, let me just ask one question:

You say asian women (and thai by default) are "demure and non-threatening." Can you PLEASE explain why Thailand is on the forefront (and has been for quite some time) of penile re-attachments. I really would like to know how this fits in with demure and non-threatening. Do you have an answer? Other than the fact that you don't know asian women (nor caucasian by what you wrote).

Here is another great quote:

"My suggestion would be to use your eyes and ears and take a good look at the world around you TV, MAGs, Internet, oh and Bangkok too."

You site four parts as the world around me. Isn't it interesting that the first three items are mass media where professionals are paid to create a fictitious WORLDs in order to sell stuff (not as true for the internet if you look at just boards, but if you look at advertising, the argument holds true). The LAST place you tell me to look, which is mentioned seemingly like an afterthought, is a REAL place: Bangkok.

What does that tell us about you? That your world is 3/4 fictitious and 1/4 truth?

I won't even bother looking at mass media. Why don't YOU open YOUR eyes and talk to people. Or are you just to afraid to say, "Hello?"

"I simply dont thing you understood much of what I wrote anyway, which I standby 100%."

I actually understand exactly what you wrote and your point of view. Seems you are socially inhibited which leads you to believe that asian women are more approachable because you can only have the confidence to approach women when you are in the seat of power. In addition, you exhibit a strong asian fetish characteristics without seeing the whole picture. I only hope that your wake up call is not realizing that you are no longer attached to your penis.