RoobLaw Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I'm not sure about the number of syllables in the word ¤³ÃÃÑ¡ÉÃÈÒʵ³ì The first à is a final consonant with the "¹" sound. Question: Does it stop at that point? Or does the à act as a "double function". Is it: ¤Ã-¹Ã-ÃÑ¡-ʹ-ÃÃ-ÊÒ´ (6 syllables, à as a double function) or ¤Ã-¹Ã-ÃÑ¡-ʹ-ÊÒ´ (5 syllables) Examples of consonants having double functions are: Ê¡»Ã¡ (here the ¡ acts as a double function, both a final consonant and an initial consonant starting the next syllable - Ê¡-¡Ã-»Ã¡) Çѹ¾ÄËÑʺ´Õ (here the Ê acts a double function) So, does the à in ¤³ÃÃÑ¡ÉÃÈÒʵÃì act has a double function or not? From what I recall, I've heard it said both ways, but I beleive one is wrong. I have a hunch that the second one is correct as I vividly remember my professor correcting me once on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoobLaw Posted February 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 about consonants doing double function, this always gets me too, and the only way I can say the word right is to memorize when this occurs since I can't find any rules that govern when it should or shouldn't happen. Regarding double functions, according to one of my Thai professors, there are no hard and fast rules. We had an exercise where we had a list of words, probably about 150 of them in this chapter, where we would read them knowing they were double functions. Similarly, there are no rules for final consonants. After extensive conversations with both teachers and students at ¤³ÃÃÑ¡ÉÃÈÒʵÃì (Facutly of Arts) the only way is to memorize. So, the key is to practice reading and writing often. I usually memorize a word by writing it five or ten times during my studies, but I had to write the word ¡ÉѵÃÔÂì at least 25 times before finally I memorized it, or as you state, (·èç!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoobLaw Posted February 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 ¤³ÃÃÑ¡ÉÃÈÒʵÃì (¤Ã-¹Ã-ÃÑ¡-ÊÃ-ÃÃ-ÊÒ´) = 6 syllables Thanks. But I'm just a tad bit confused about something. Take the three classes of ¾ÂѪ¹à ñ) ÃÑ¡ÉáÅÒ§ ò) ÃÑ¡ÉáÊÙ§ ó) ÃÑ¡ÉáµÃÃ’ Isn't ÃÑ¡Éá pronounced ÃÑ¡-ʹ or ÃÑ¡-Êù (I'm not sure which). Maybe it changes when the word is longer. *source: Thaisoft So Sethaputra Dictionary 2.0 What dictionary is this? I like the format where Thai teachers use the Thai phonetic system this way, without using Roman Characters, which I refer to as PBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoobLaw Posted February 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 ÃÑ¡Éà is pronouced as ÃÑ¡-ÊùÉÃ, a consonant + à = 'ÃÃ(¹)' vowel and 'Ã' becomes '¹' in the syllable. like ¡Ã in the word ÇÔÈÇ¡Ã which is pronounced as ÇÔ-ÊÃ-ÇÃ-¡Ã¹, or ¾Ã (¾Ã¹) n. gift. dont have much time today, details later. Yes! I remember now - Basic II at Chula. The C-à rule. Thanks for the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
literature Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 yellowsubmarine <<<< good thai teacher. Thumb up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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