zeusbheld Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 possibly the only time i've knowingly agreed with Piers Morgan (Celebrity Apprentice doesn't count because Omorosa was the alternative): Piers Morgan on what a self-absorbed **** Becks is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorea Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Love is blind.. I love Piers. Full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Love is blind.. I love Piers. Full stop. Blind???!!! Blind???? More like blind, retarded and in serious need of mental health treatment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Piers = plastic fan Piers = plastic psuedo commie. but he's right about Becks being a pretentious self-absorbed *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 The Quote Pieres is so pissed off about: ''Real football people will turn around and say "He's passionate about playing for his country and knows what he needs to do that to make that happen".' I don't see anything wrong with that, he wants to keep playing for England and to do that he has to play top flight football, we all know that Galaxy is a joke and he would never be recalled to the squad if he stayed there. The mans a top flight player, doing the business at AC and works harder than Pieres, has more talent than Pieres and will go down as a top player, I think ol' Pieres though I do like him, is just a tad jealous of Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 You've got 2 years MAX left in you to play top flight footie, would you: a: Stay at Galaxy b: Play in Italy for one of the worlds greatest clubs? ****, you'd be an idiot to turn that chance down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 You've got 2 years MAX left in you to play top flight footie, would you:a: Stay at Galaxy b: Play in Italy for one of the worlds greatest clubs? f*ck, you'd be an idiot to turn that chance down. not saying that he shouldn't do it, just that he shouldn't have been such a ***** to do the LA deal in the first place. now that he has most of the money he's going to play the hero like he just had a change of heart as opposed to being a cynical money grubbing egomaniac? his only noble act was placing his ego ahead of his bank account. hardly worthy of framing in the kind of pseudo-heroic terms the pretentious **** uses. still, he's a hell of a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 You've got 2 years MAX left in you to play top flight footie, would you:a: Stay at Galaxy b: Play in Italy for one of the worlds greatest clubs? f*ck, you'd be an idiot to turn that chance down. not saying that he shouldn't do it, just that he shouldn't have been such a c*nt to do the LA deal in the first place. now that he has most of the money he's going to play the hero like he just had a change of heart as opposed to being a cynical money grubbing egomaniac? his only noble act was placing his ego ahead of his bank account. hardly worthy of framing in the kind of pseudo-heroic terms the pretentious **** uses. still, he's a hell of a talent. he did the LA deal in the first place because he got shafted by Real and it appeared that none of the big european clubs were interested in him. i've never been a massive Becks fan, but i think he's doing exactly the right thing !! oh and before i forget .... Piers is a bigger more self absorbed f**king ****/***** than Becks can ever hope to be !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamcanada76 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well none of them were interested in throwing 250 million dollars at him,at least(or whatever the figure turns out to be).He signed the contract and he should honour it....nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to go to MLS.As far as the whole"I still want to play for England and can't do that if I'm not playing during the winter season"goes;maybe he should have given that a little more thought BEFORE he signed with L.A. They have always played during the summer,he knew that going into the deal but now he wants to start cryin about it?? You've got 2 years MAX left in you to play top flight footie, would you:a: Stay at Galaxy b: Play in Italy for one of the worlds greatest clubs? f*ck, you'd be an idiot to turn that chance down. not saying that he shouldn't do it, just that he shouldn't have been such a c*nt to do the LA deal in the first place. now that he has most of the money he's going to play the hero like he just had a change of heart as opposed to being a cynical money grubbing egomaniac? his only noble act was placing his ego ahead of his bank account. hardly worthy of framing in the kind of pseudo-heroic terms the pretentious **** uses. still, he's a hell of a talent. he did the LA deal in the first place because he got shafted by Real and it appeared that none of the big european clubs were interested in him. i've never been a massive Becks fan, but i think he's doing exactly the right thing !! oh and before i forget .... Piers is a bigger more self absorbed f**king ****/c*nt than Becks can ever hope to be !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well none of them were interested in throwing 250 million dollars at him,at least(or whatever the figure turns out to be).He signed the contract and he should honour it....nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to go to MLS.As far as the whole"I still want to play for England and can't do that if I'm not playing during the winter season"goes;maybe he should have given that a little more thought BEFORE he signed with L.A. They have always played during the summer,he knew that going into the deal but now he wants to start cryin about it?? You've got 2 years MAX left in you to play top flight footie, would you:a: Stay at Galaxy b: Play in Italy for one of the worlds greatest clubs? f*ck, you'd be an idiot to turn that chance down. not saying that he shouldn't do it, just that he shouldn't have been such a c*nt to do the LA deal in the first place. now that he has most of the money he's going to play the hero like he just had a change of heart as opposed to being a cynical money grubbing egomaniac? his only noble act was placing his ego ahead of his bank account. hardly worthy of framing in the kind of pseudo-heroic terms the pretentious **** uses. still, he's a hell of a talent. he did the LA deal in the first place because he got shafted by Real and it appeared that none of the big european clubs were interested in him. i've never been a massive Becks fan, but i think he's doing exactly the right thing !! oh and before i forget .... Piers is a bigger more self absorbed f**king ****/c*nt than Becks can ever hope to be !!! as far as i'm aware a deal has been reached between Becks, Milan and LA Galaxy .... so no contract has been broken !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 You've got 2 years MAX left in you to play top flight footie, would you:a: Stay at Galaxy b: Play in Italy for one of the worlds greatest clubs? f*ck, you'd be an idiot to turn that chance down. not saying that he shouldn't do it, just that he shouldn't have been such a c*nt to do the LA deal in the first place. now that he has most of the money he's going to play the hero like he just had a change of heart as opposed to being a cynical money grubbing egomaniac? his only noble act was placing his ego ahead of his bank account. hardly worthy of framing in the kind of pseudo-heroic terms the pretentious **** uses. still, he's a hell of a talent. he did the LA deal in the first place because he got shafted by Real and it appeared that none of the big european clubs were interested in him. i've never been a massive Becks fan, but i think he's doing exactly the right thing !! a) if you play for Real, you get shafted by real. news? no. as for none of the big clubs being interested... funny, i remember it differently. the way i remember it, *he* wasn't interested in the pay cut. c) he's cutting his losses, which is sensible, but the stupid ***** shouldn't have tried to cash in by moving to a mediocre league in the first place. it's roughly like a Nobel-prize-winning writer taking a job teaching English in Thailand--for 1,000,000 baht a month. then suddenly saying "oh ****. i'm an english teacher. how embarrassing." now, i know that the only thing on Earth dumber than Becks is his wife, but JESUS H ******* CHRIST IF YOUR'E STANDING ON THE ******* TRAIN TRACKS, AND YOU SEE A LARGE OBJECT WITH A LIGHT ON THE FRONT MOVING TOWARD YOU VERY FAST, IT'S PROBABLY A TRAIN. DUH. in other words, any moron could have seen this day coming. well, *almost* any moron. d) now that he realizes he screwed up by taking the job in the first place, he has no problem screwing over LA and the entire MLS, and not only being utterly cavalier about it, but pretending cutting his losses makes him some kind of ******* hero instead of, oh, i don't know, a contract-breaking money-grubbing back-stabber. oh and before i forget .... Piers is a bigger more self absorbed f**king ****/c*nt than Becks can ever hope to be !!! not much argument on the Piers bashing, but it's a bit like comparing a .357 magnum hollow point between the eyes to a .45 hollow point between the eyes, isn't it? so what if one bullet moves a little faster? you're dead either way. primary difference between being David Beckham has phenomenal talent, Piers has an abject lack of talent (for anything except Madonna-esque self-promotion). they both have an alarming knack for feigning integrity when it suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 ...as far as i'm aware a deal has been reached between Becks, Milan and LA Galaxy .... so no contract has been broken !!! right... *technically.* he de facto put a gun to their head and told them to eat the **** sandwich and then sign on the dotted line. the "no contract broken" is just a slimy technicality, the kind indulged in by backstabbing douchebag prima donnas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 ffs ..... so he didn't break his contract ... what exactly is the big deal ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 ffs ..... so he didn't break his contract ... what exactly is the big deal ?? the big deal is that it is possible to entirely **** over the people you enter into contract with by forcing them to renegotiate according to your new terms. the big deal is that *technically* renegotiating isn't "breaking," but only TECHNICALLY. forcing someone to renegotiate according to your whims IS ass-raping the spirit of the contract. MLS/LA's only options were to a) bend over and take it up the ass, or mutual assured destruction--threaten up Becks in litigation, injunction after injunction, appeal after appeal, long enough to ensure that the only way he'd ever play football again is for LA. neither is a PR goldmine but i really don't see how it is anything but obvious that LA "consented" with a gun to their ******* head. technically, prison rape is consensual sex if you don't put up a fight, even if the *only* reason you don't fight back is because Bubba is 6'9 300 pounds of pissed off mixed martial arts champion. that said, it was never gonna work--this was inevitable, as just about everyone *except* the dipshit Becks knew when he signed for LA. at least the two-faced son of a ***** could admit that he made a mistake and that it's regrettable he has to screw people and organizations over to get what he wants, rather than painting himself to be the ******* hero and champion of integrity. in other words, the scumbag *could* apologize rather than patting himself on the back, but apparently "oops, sorry" is too much to ask. i realize they're only footballers but a little honesty would be nice now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 ffs ..... so he didn't break his contract ... what exactly is the big deal ?? the big deal is that it is possible to entirely f*ck over the people you enter into contract with by forcing them to renegotiate according to your new terms. the big deal is that *technically* renegotiating isn't "breaking," but only TECHNICALLY. forcing someone to renegotiate according to your whims IS a*s-raping the spirit of the contract. MLS/LA's only options were to a) bend over and take it up the a*s, or mutual assured destruction--threaten up Becks in litigation, injunction after injunction, appeal after appeal, long enough to ensure that the only way he'd ever play football again is for LA. neither is a PR goldmine but i really don't see how it is anything but obvious that LA "consented" with a gun to their f*cking head. technically, prison rape is consensual sex if you don't put up a fight, even if the *only* reason you don't fight back is because Bubba is 6'9 300 pounds of pissed off mixed martial arts champion. that said, it was never gonna work--this was inevitable, as just about everyone *except* the dipshit Becks knew when he signed for LA. at least the two-faced son of a b*tch could admit that he made a mistake and that it's regrettable he has to screw people and organizations over to get what he wants, rather than painting himself to be the f*cking hero and champion of integrity. in other words, the scumbag *could* apologize rather than patting himself on the back, but apparently "oops, sorry" is too much to ask. i realize they're only footballers but a little honesty would be nice now and then. I think its almost good for Galaxy, all the free press they will get over this, one of the worlds biggest teams wanting a player from them, its all going to raise the profile of a shitty team in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 ps, Ciaran... oh mytee white knight, did you come rushing to Anelka's defense when he f**ked Arsenal over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 ffs ..... so he didn't break his contract ... what exactly is the big deal ?? the big deal is that it is possible to entirely f*ck over the people you enter into contract with by forcing them to renegotiate according to your new terms. the big deal is that *technically* renegotiating isn't "breaking," but only TECHNICALLY. forcing someone to renegotiate according to your whims IS a*s-raping the spirit of the contract. MLS/LA's only options were to a) bend over and take it up the a*s, or mutual assured destruction--threaten up Becks in litigation, injunction after injunction, appeal after appeal, long enough to ensure that the only way he'd ever play football again is for LA. neither is a PR goldmine but i really don't see how it is anything but obvious that LA "consented" with a gun to their f*cking head. technically, prison rape is consensual sex if you don't put up a fight, even if the *only* reason you don't fight back is because Bubba is 6'9 300 pounds of pissed off mixed martial arts champion. that said, it was never gonna work--this was inevitable, as just about everyone *except* the dipshit Becks knew when he signed for LA. at least the two-faced son of a b*tch could admit that he made a mistake and that it's regrettable he has to screw people and organizations over to get what he wants, rather than painting himself to be the f*cking hero and champion of integrity. in other words, the scumbag *could* apologize rather than patting himself on the back, but apparently "oops, sorry" is too much to ask. i realize they're only footballers but a little honesty would be nice now and then. funnily enough every article i read quoted becks as saying (more or less) "i'd prefer to play for milan, but if both sides can't agree a deal i'll go back and play for LA !!" .... obviously u r privy to more info than the rest of us !!! now i didn't realise that rape in prison (or anywhere) was consensual sex if u didn't fight back !!!! .... but then again i don't really wanna know !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 ps, Ciaran...oh mytee white knight, did you come rushing to Anelka's defense when he f**ked Arsenal over? Anelka (and several other players recently) threatened to refuse to play for the club if they didn't sanction the transfer ..... slight difference in Beck's attitude from what i have seen reported !! there's quite probably been a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes which we r not aware of, but i just don't see much wrong in what Beck has done !! for what it's worth i think the pendulam has swung too far in the favour of players regarding contracts nowadays, but i doubt my opinion is gonna bother them as they walk out of one muti million pound contract straight into another !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 fair enough that he didn't say he'd refuse to play, by most accounts. his negotiating technique is like Wilson Pickett negotiating his band's salary: put the gun on the table rather than actually point it at 'em (a la Anelka). also bear in mind that like Michael Jordan, Becks is really a corporation and negotiations would have been conducted by an army of his lawyers (unlike the brat Anelka or the should-have-outgrown-it-by-now Wiliam Gallas). i'm not saying that he's worse than Anelka, Gallas et al (that's setting the bar quite low already). (by the way i give Robinho a free pass on his exit from Real, only because Real are proven scumbags and they screwed him over first with their bid for Crying Christina. if he pulls that **** again, though, he can be renamed Little Nicky). what i find appalling is NOT that he screws LA and the MLS over--it's that afterward, the pompous **** comes out with a statement as if they should thank him for the reacharound. again, i'm not saying i wouldn't have ditched LA--i would have---but i wouldn't have the gall to say i'm taking the high road and expect them to thank me. while his negotiating techniques were far more crude, Gallas didn't say he was taking the high road (he denied everything and whined a lot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 as i said .. there's probably a lot gone on behind the scenes we do not (and possibly never will) know about. but i do think beckham has behaved a damm sight better than other players while trying to engineer a move ... at least in public anyway. his move to LA always had the potential to end in tears as i'm sure they signed him for his marketability rather than football skills. i'm not saying beckham isn't a good player, but the is at his best playing alongside other good players (fairly obvious point i guess). but there r players who grab a team by the scruff of the neck and turn them into something special .... maradonna with napoli being a prime example and becks was never that kind of player !! therefore when he didn't exactly set the world on fire with LA i'm sure questions were being asked as to if he represented value for money. maybe this time-share could end up suiting all three parties to a certain extent !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 It's hard to believed I'm agreeing with Ciaran let alone defending twatb*lls...but; Beckham went to LA thinking his England career was pretty much over. I also think that there was a fair amount of presssure on him from Posh ****; no prizes for guessing who wears the strap on in their house!!! But once McClaren had gone I think he saw a chance of a few more caps, but in reality had to be playing in Europe to get these. At the end of the day, he part funded his 'loan' to AC himself, he's still going back to LA for a few months and he is still going ahead with his Goldenb*lls football academies. Much as I would love to see Ingerland gettin ggubbed by the Faroes, I still enjoy watching great talent play (I even once applauded Gascoigne scoring a wonder goal past my team in Scotland) At the end of the day, he's a ****, his wife is a ****, and his children will probably grow up to be twats, but it's his f*cking life and if he chooses to play in Italia rather than US, so what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 ...his move to LA always had the potential to end in tears as i'm sure they signed him for his marketability rather than football skills. i'm not saying beckham isn't a good player, but the is at his best playing alongside other good players (fairly obvious point i guess). but there r players who grab a team by the scruff of the neck and turn them into something special .... maradonna with napoli being a prime example and becks was never that kind of player !! therefore when he didn't exactly set the world on fire with LA i'm sure questions were being asked as to if he represented value for money. maybe this time-share could end up suiting all three parties to a certain extent !!! good point. signing him in the first place wasn't a sensible football decision, and they have part-time custody for marketing purposes, it does seem like an adequate compromise, far better than the usual debacle that happens when a player wants to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 It's hard to believed I'm agreeing with Ciaran let alone defending twatb*lls...but; Beckham went to LA thinking his England career was pretty much over. I also think that there was a fair amount of presssure on him from Posh ****; no prizes for guessing who wears the strap on in their house!!! But once McClaren had gone I think he saw a chance of a few more caps, but in reality had to be playing in Europe to get these.At the end of the day, he part funded his 'loan' to AC himself, he's still going back to LA for a few months and he is still going ahead with his Goldenb*lls football academies. Much as I would love to see Ingerland gettin ggubbed by the Faroes, I still enjoy watching great talent play (I even once applauded Gascoigne scoring a wonder goal past my team in Scotland) again, the original point wasn't that his move to Milan wasn't beneficial to him or to the England squad, it was that Becks was being a sanctimonious **** in his spin of it in the press. At the end of the day, he's a ****, his wife is a ****, and his children will probably grow up to be twats, but it's his f*cking life and if he chooses to play in Italia rather than US, so what??? he's a public figure. it's a statement he made in the press. therefore it's as fair as fair game can possibly get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 It's hard to make head nor tail about this. I'm a selfish ***** and I'm just happy he's playing in a proper team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceofCalifornia Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hmmm...some interesting comments. Bottom line is it was a no brainer. Capello won't play him if he's not playing for a top club that plays a proper FA schedule. His game has picked up and I can't believe anyone could blame him for wanting to go. AC Milan are the big winners, they don't have to pay sh!t in transfer fees for a player that has rekindled his career and is also creating big marketing bucks. He simply works out perfect on that team. The Galaxy get a benefit too in still having his name to use for their marketing and the buzz this has created. The best benefit that nobody has mentioned is that under the agreement his salary will not count against the leagues restrictive policy. This is huge for a big market team and allows the Galaxy the ability to add another star anytime this year if desired. Becks is happy too and I have never seen him give less than his all in any game, so best scenario was worked out under the circumstances. Thats my 2 cents anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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